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Hons. Graduate can get PG scale {1595-SE(S), dt. 26.12.2005}

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  • #70155
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      I have came to learn that many of our newly appointed teacher friends are in dilemma whether they will get the PG scale of pay after completing the Masters in their concerned subjects (Hons. Graduate in PG posts). Even, some of them of are being deprived of permission either by the school authority, or by the D.I. (SE) for higher studies. For them I am separately posting three different G.O.s which will dispel all confusion. Now, no in-service teacher requires the permission of higher authority for higher studies and if anybody is appointed as Hons. Graduate in PG post, he/she will be able to get the PG scale of pay after the completion of Masters in the concerned subject.

      #80786
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        Hi @sourishjal
        Here I would like say something regarding your above post.
        1) The teachers appointed in Hons. Scale, but had already acquired the Masters Degree or had completed the final examination of PG in the relevant subject prior to his/her appointment, are entitled to get PG scale w.e.f. the date of his/her joining. There is no confusion about that.
        2) But how can you say that ” no in-service teacher requires the permission of higher authority for higher studies and if anybody is appointed as Hons. Graduate in PG post, he/she will be able to get the PG scale of pay after the completion of Masters in the concerned subject.”
        Here arises the Question Mark…..
        A teacher who has been appointed in Hons. Scale and wants to complete his/her Masters Degree needs the permission of higher authority. Without this permission, none would be allowed to enhance his/her qualification. Even if one does without intimating higher authority, he/she will not be allowed to draw higher pay scale.
        This is true that Order No. 438-SE/S/5P-19/09 Date: 19.05.2014 has been cancelled vide Order No. 566-SE/S/5P-19/09 Date: 08.07.2014. But the later clearly says, “A revised order will be issued subsequently.”
        So you will have to wait till this substitute to conclude your above post. Even Order No. 1595-SE(S), dt. 26.12.2005 also says of the prior permission of the higher authority.
        Till then all such matters will be decided as per THE WEST BENGAL SCHOOLS (CONTROL OF EXPENDITURE) ACT, 2005

        #80787
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          @gpgarain The unwanted error is accepted. Actually I should have added the clause as you have referred to in No. 1. But you know, despite the various G.O.s and Circulars higher authorities are not permitting the willing teachers to enhance their educational qualification. While there exist some UGC affiliated distance courses which have actually been modified keeping the in-service teachers in mind. And if a case actually arises where the authorities do not allow, won’t that teacher pursue higher studies? If that happens, that will also contradict the RTE Act 2009 and its succeeding amendments. And, that is why, I think, the 438-SE order was withdrawn. Yet, I accept the mistake.

          #80788
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            As I mentioned in sl no.1 of my post, i.e., who has acquired PG prior to appointment, I don’t think any teacher has faced any complications to have PG scale.
            Bus t as for enhancement of qualification after appointment, I think Hons. Graduates should be allow to acquire Post Graduation, if already appointed in Hons. Scale.
            Hope a Revised Order will be issued soon considering this point. But I don’t think an incumbent will be allowed to go for higher study without Prior Permission. Anyway, let such order be issued as early as possible and let the process of acquiring Prior Permission be smooth.

            #80791
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              @gpgarain Garain Da, Let all the deserving incumbents be allowed to avail of the higher pay. But thanks again for drawing my attention to the error.

              #80795
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                As an intimation, I want to add – in DI of South 24 Pgs. allowed PG scale who joined as Hons Graduate and had passed Part-I of PG, or completed PG but result had not yet been published before joined the service, only their cases.

                #80796
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                  @gpgarain and @mihiracharya Many many thanks to both of you for carrying the discussion on towards a productive end.

                  #80841
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                    I am an Hons. graduate teacher. Now I want to study Masters through distance mode. I gave application to the Managing committee of my school seeking permission for study. The president of M.C. told me to take admission to M.Sc and later they will give me permission. Now, if I take admission to M.Sc ,later will any problem of getting higher scale arise after completion of M.Sc ? The date of admission is getting to end. Now, what to do, please suggest.

                    #80842
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                      As for now, if you do Masters without the permission of the DI/s, you will surely face difficulty in getting Higher Pay Scale. Even if you get Higher Pay Scale after completion of your Masters somehow, you may face difficulty in future.

                      #80843
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                        @gpgarain and @A_Mallik But I have come to learn that even after the permissions of MCs the concerned DIs have been found to be a bit conservative, if not reluctant, in permitting the willing candidates.

                        #80844
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                          @sourishjal You are absolutely right. Most of the DI/s refuses to accept the prayer of such cases and some, after receiving the prayers, send to the Cold Storage for unending times. May be they also have unofficial pressure not to give such permission after the THE WEST BENGAL SCHOOLS (CONTROL OF EXPENDITURE) ACT, 2005. But ultimately, we have nothing to do.

                          #80848
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                            Dear @A_Mallik, At least before your admission a copy of M.C. permission with resolution must submit to the D.I. office and take received copy from receiving section for your safety and as future measures. I think, you will not get the permission from the DI. You may get it(permission), if you declared that you will not claimed the higher scale after completion of the PG degree.
                            Thanks a lot.

                            #80851
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                              @mihiracharya but my post is H/PG. Now I am in Hons. scale. After completion of PG degree, I will be able to get PG scale.

                              #80853
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                                Dear @A_Mallik , I have read your quarry. Please follow the discussion of our moderators i.e. @ gpgarain and @ sourishjal.

                                After completion of PG degree, I will be able to get PG scale.

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                                Then you are confirmed about your P.G. Scale. But there may be a problem.

                                #80854
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                                  @A_Mallik All you need to claim Higher Pay Scale is the Permission of the concerned DI/s to go for your Masters.

                                  #80913
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                                    same problem here . i already got m.c permission (resolution copy) and in letter format along with a copy forwarded to DI . but in my district DI didn’t received it and he says that he will not give me the permission. if you want to do masters then do at your own risk , after completion you will not get scale without court case. is there any way ?

                                    #80915
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                                      This has been the problem for many like you. Actually, the DIs are not ready to defy the School Expenditure Controll Act- 2005.

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